Good evening everybody and welcome to tonight's webinar. My name is Bruce Stevenson and I have the honour and privilege of chairing the webinar this evening. Before we get started, I'd like to say a huge big thank you to our sponsors, Mars Pet Nutrition.
Without their generous sponsorship, we wouldn't be able to bring this webinar to you. For those of you that are new to us, just a little bit of housekeeping quickly. If you have any questions for our panellists, please just, move your mouse over the screen.
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The first one, is a familiar face to us. Alejandro Filippini is a veterinarian and science lead for the Pet Nutrition of Europe, with over 10 years of experience in pet nutrition. Scientific communication and regulatory affairs.
She has worked across international markets, leading cross-functional initiatives and translating complex science into clear, evidence-based communication to support impactful nutritional strategies. She's passionate about advancing veterinary science and committed to staying at the forefront of pet nutrition research and development. Welcome, Ali.
Our second presenter this evening is Kate. Kate is the VP of digital innovation for Mars Pet Care and leads the Digital Health Initiative, a cross-functional effort to develop health screening instruments for pet parents to help identify early signs of disease using artificial intelligence and computer vision. Kate started her career at Google, where she spent nearly 10 years working on digital transformation programmes with some of the largest automotive companies around the world.
She joined Mars back in 2022 with the goal of marrying her love of technology with her love of her two dogs and anchored on the belief that when we work together, we truly can make a difference, can make a better world for pets. Welcome, Kate. Our last but not least, presenter this evening is Rebecca Wright.
Rebecca is the global health and well-being science leader for Mars pet Nutrition with over 13 years' experience across local, regional, and global research and development roles. In her current position, she is responsible for developing global science programme focused on oral health. Through the generation of clinical evidence, peer-reviewed science, and close collaboration with functional ingredient suppliers, scientific insights are translated into evidence-based health solutions for our pets.
Rebecca holds a PhD in Health and Medical Sciences from the University of Nottingham and a BSC honours in Human Biology from the University of Birmingham. Ladies, welcome to the webinar, vet, and it's over to you. Thank you so much.
Yes. OK, let's start it. Good evening, everyone, and thank you for joining us today.
We know that oral health is a fundamental part of overall well-being. In fact, 80% of dogs over the age of 3 suffer from periodontal disease. Despite this, perception tells a very different story.
72% of pet owners rate their dog's teeth as good or even perfect, and only 4% say that they brush their dog's teeth regularly. This gap highlights a critical point here that is that oral disease is highly prevalent. So, what is really outstanding in the weight of veal care?
For many years at Mars, we believe the biggest challenge was education. But today, we understand that the situation is even more complex. More than 75% of pet parents recognise that oral health directly impacts their dog's overall health and well-being.
Yet only about half of them take preventive action. This means that we are not facing a lack of awareness alone. We are facing a lack of action.
And why? Because many feel overwhelmed by mixed messages. They may believe oral care is not relevant to their dogs or they just don't know when a situation requires professional attention.
So, how do we transform this awareness into action, making oral health visible? This is where tools can, can help. When pet parents can better understand what they are seeing, they are more likely to seek professional advice and take preventive action.
When pet parents looks at their dog's teeth and wonders, maybe should we visit the vet because of this, that question becomes an opportunity. An opportunity to start a conversation, an opportunity to reinforce trust with vet professionals, and most important, an opportunity to protect their dog's health before problems become severe. To scan doesn't replace professional diagnosis.
In terms of, inte intense sorry, instead of that, it supports communication and awareness. By supporting this dialogue, we can help turn inform but inactive pet parents into proactive advocates for their dog's health. So, how does Tuan make the invisible visible?
To answer that, I'm pleased to hand over to Kate, who will introduce the technology behind Tuan. Thank you. Perfect.
Thank you so much, Ali. So, hi, everyone. I'm Kate Ballingate.
I'm the VP of digital innovation for Mars Pet Care. I lead the Digital Health Initiative, which is a large programme where we're building actually a portfolio of health screening instruments for early disease detection. We have kind of two types of instruments that we're developing today for pet parents and putting them in front of pet parents through the reach of all of our biggest brands at pet care.
We have check tools which help assess is a dog at risk for developing a health condition based on population-based factors, and we have scan tools, and that's where tooth scan fits in. Our scan tools help basically detect visual signalment of potential early stage disease development. All of these tools are built on the digital health platform, which makes them very easy to implement, modular, scalable.
At Mars Pet Care, we have the privilege of reaching over 500 million pet parents around the world through all of our brands, and we are very committed through the Digital Health Initiative to creating technology in a really open, scalable way. So that we can reach as many pet parents as possible. So I wanted you to see that Tooth scan actually fits into a portfolio of a family of tools.
When it comes to how we actually built this algorithm, it's actually an ensemble of 8 different computer vision models that are all operating together to identify visual signalment within a photograph. What's important to note is that all of these models were developed using real-world images of dogs' teeth. They were all labelled by licenced veterinarians and oral health specialists.
The models are designed to help us, 1, confirm that the image is safe for us to analyse, is it of a dog and of a dog's teeth, and then 2, to extract basically health signalment from the image. What we do is we look at within the image, we are able to identify each individual tooth and then on that tooth, we identify is there the presence of tartar, yes or no. And then we also identify the gingiva above the corresponding tooth, and we look to see if there is a gum irritation present on that gingiva.
We then consolidate all of this information, make it available via an API, and then put it in front of a pet parent. We publish all of the information about how we built these models on Mars.com.
If you are using the QR code to test the product experience yourself right now, you'll notice that, on the very first screen, you can click to read more about the science behind. Tooth scan and you'll be able to visit this article and you'll be able to see just how many images were used to train the model, how the model performs, all of the kind of real-world testing that we did. We know that it's really important as AI starts to become, you know, a bigger part of veterinary medicine to be really transparent about who exactly built this model and how it really performs in a real-world setting.
In addition to being very transparent about the model itself, we want to be very transparent about how we created this product experience because translating the science into a way that is friendly for, pet parents and credible is a huge part of this initiative and so to do that, I'm going to pass it over to my colleague, Rebecca. Thank you Kate. Yes, so as you've heard, Kate and her team did an incredible job at developing the algorithm behind Tooth scan and really ensuring that it was accurate, reliable and clinically meaningful.
So once we were confident in the robustness of the algorithm, the next step was asking how do we make this genuine and educational, or how do we make it engaging, how do we make it user friendly, and that's where I came in. So my role was helping to build the content around the technology so that it didn't just analyse teeth but actually supported a better understanding of oral health and empowering pet parents to do something about it. So 2 scan really is an exciting and quite unique opportunity where we can educate parents about oral health.
One of the biggest differences is that it's personalised, so we're not just giving generic advice about dental disease in dogs, we're asking for the dog's name, we refer to that individual dog throughout, it's their mouth, their teeth and their results. So basically, in the tool, the pet parents upload a photograph of their dog's mouth, and every visible tooth is analysed. From that they then receive a personalised tooth map highlighting which teeth were assessed and also flagging areas where tartar buildup or gum information may be present.
That visual element of the tool is incredibly powerful, so instead of your dog has tartar, they are seeing which tooth, where in the mouth, and they can even go and look at it in their own dog's mouth to to understand what it really looks like. So alongside that we provide bite sized digestible education and in the tool we explain what gum disease actually is and how it develops, the role of plaque and tartar, and also the long term health implications of poor oral health. We also include information about the individual teeth, and tailored advice from home care or or care routines based on the breed size or confirmations which choose are safe and importantly, everything that we've put in the app is underpinned by scientifically robust references for anyone who would like to explore the topic further.
So the information is accessible, but it's not oversimplified. Now, as we all know in this room, poor oral health isn't just about what the teeth and gums actually look like. Gingivitis is the most common oral health issue in dogs, but it certainly isn't the only one.
And just a lack of obvious visible changes doesn't mean that there isn't something brewing below the gum line or that isn't visible just yet. So a key part of T scan is educating pet parents about what to look out for, and we try and highlight signs such as persistent halitosis, any blood on toys or chews, if there's reluctance to eat or chew, or also any subtle behavioural changes that may indicate oral pain. And we explain in very simple terms what those signs could mean.
So the aim of that isn't to alarm pet parents, it's really to empower them because we want pet parents to feel confident at recognising any early indicators of poor oral health or issues so that they can take action sooner rather than later, because as we know, the earlier the intervention, the bigger difference that it can make to the outcomes. And we're also very clear that optimal oral care isn't just one thing, and in exactly the same way that we model oral care on ourselves, that would be daily home care combined with professional care, such as regular visits to the dentist. Within two scan, we consistently reinforce proactive home care, toothbrushing where possible, and appropriate dental.
Or other supportive products, but equally and very deliberately, we emphasise that veterinary examination is fundamental. So again, just reiterating the point that Ali made at the beginning of the session, this tool is not to replace clinical assessment. It's not designed to diagnose, and it's certainly not intended to give any false reassurance.
And at multiple points throughout the user journey, we flag that veterinary care should form part of every dog's oral health plan. And even if no data or information is identified in the product, and even if there are no obvious signs, we try and consistently reiterate that routine veterinary visits remain essential. And pet parents can then download a copy of their results, which they can share with their vet.
And again, that's where it becomes particularly powerful because it acts as a conversation starter in consult. So instead of a pet parent saying or thinking, or his teeth might need looking at, it becomes tooth scan has flagged an area of information near to his canines, and can we take a look? So it's a real positive shift toward informed, proactive discussion and seeking veterinary advice as early as early as possible.
And finally, what we wanted to do is make sure that all of this information is accessible. So if we want to improve oral health on a population level, we have to meet pet parents where they are, and increasingly, that is on their phones. So 2 scan is fully mobile friendly.
The information is concise, visual, it's very easy to navigate, and they quite literally have their dogs or health information in the palm of their hand. So rather than overwhelming people with leaflets or lengthy explanations, we're giving them clear, understandable and evidence-based guidance in a format that fits their lives, and hopefully by doing that we can really start to shift these behaviours earlier. So before the disease progresses to a point where we're dealing with advanced periodontal disease that requires intensive and invasive treatments, we're taking proactive care to really delay and look after our pets and their oral health.
So I'll hand back over to Kate now, I think we'll talk about how we're using the data generated by TScan to continue our fight against poor oral health. Awesome. Thanks, Rebecca.
Yeah, I just wanted to show what is kind of possible when we are leveraging kind of the reach of Mars Pet Care and all of our brands and the really depth of all of our science is we're able to start to create a very powerful citizen science data flywheel. So, all of the questions that are kind of asked that Rebecca showed in order to get pet parents to pay attention to key oral health behaviours, all of this data becomes now a very structured way for us to start understanding oral health signalment across all of the markets where we've launched the product. So as I had mentioned, Toothscan is one of a portfolio of products that's built on a platform that allows us to share the product very easily.
Thanks to that, we are now live with Toothscan in 10 markets in Europe through Pedigree, as well as 7 other markets through some of our other Mars petcare brands. So I just wanted to show some of the data and how it can start to really shine through. This is pulled from the product experience where we ask pet parents if they observe foul breath.
As Rebecca noted, I can be an important sign of something bigger happening, like potentially halitosis. And I will mention that all of the data that we collect within the tooth scan experience, there's no PII, there's no personally identifiable information in there whatsoever, so it's all safe, it's all secure. We're just collecting information about kind of oral health signalment.
So this is some data showing in all of the 17 markets where we've launched how many pet parents are observing foul breath with with their dogs. So we have kind of qualitative data in terms of pet parent observations. Then from the tool we're also getting quantitative data, so we're getting kind of data about the health signalment itself.
So from the results we're able to see what percentage of tooth scan submissions to date have at least one tooth that has either tartar or that has either visual symptoms of tartar or visual symptoms of gum irritation. And as you can see here, in a lot of the markets where we've launched, 100% of people who use the product, at least one of the teeth that we analysed is showing some evidence of oral health signalment. So I know Ali had shared that early stat that 80% of dogs develop periodontal disease by age 3, and that's a stat that's been around for a long time.
And I think what's really exciting about this initiative and kind of the power of citizen science is we're going to be able to collect data on a global scale and start to reexamine some of These stats in a very new way and especially with pets who don't necessarily get medicalized. A lot of the data that we have from an epidemiological perspective comes from pets who are visiting the vet, but with tools like this we are able to actually collect data across the general population and start to really understand prevalence in a new way. And the final slide I'll show is where it starts to get really interesting is when you start to compare the sort of qualitative data around pet parent observations about their dog's oral health with the quantitative data, the signalment that we're seeing in the photographs themselves.
So I thought that it was really interesting that of all the 2 scan submissions across the 17 different countries where we've launched this product, 51% of pet parents are observing foul breath. And if we compare kind of the data from the photographs themselves, we're finding that if the pet parents do observe foul breath, 47.1% of the teeth in those photographs have visual signs of tartar.
If pet parents don't observe foul breath, a much a significantly smaller percentage of the teeth actually have tartar. So we're really just showcasing this as kind of the power of what's going to be possible as we start to kind of think about prevalence and collecting health information in this very new way. We believe that there is a real level of mutuality here that we can give real utility to pet parents and help them.
As we said, make the invisible visible, and that we're going to be able to start to unlock even greater scientific understanding about these diseases on a truly global scale and then share that information with pet parents as well as the vet community. And really, that's all the main content that we've prepared for you today. It's kind of short and sweet.
But we did want to invite you to kind of join the Two Scan movement. And Ali, I don't know if you want to talk about some of the resources that we have available to, anyone who's interested. Yeah, sure.
If you are in the UK, Germany, or France, you have available the vet pack, you have there the QR codes where you can request the vet pack with a lot of information regarding the science behind our products and also regarding oral care. And we, what we developed is this poster that you can er also have in your clinics to, to let it close to the pet owners, maybe in the waiting room and you can also download this poster if you don't receive this vet pack, you can download this poster. We are going to send you this by by email or in the website of the webinar bed, you have this poster, and here you can.
Share the QR code with your patients, with the pet owners, and then in when, when they are waiting for their appointment, they can start scanning their dog teeth and open the conversation and start a conversation with you once they are in the consultation room. So, more than welcome to, to, to register here if you are in these 33 countries, and of course, we, we are going to do our best to, to try to send to you the, the posters or at least you have it there to download it. Oh, I don't know if you have questions and if you have a Q&A.
Yeah, Ali, thank you, Eli, Rebecca, Kate, I'm, I'm almost speechless, OK. I don't think I've ever been speechless, but I'm very close to it now. This is mind-blowing stuff.
It is absolutely incredible what you guys have done, and, yeah, just, just a huge thank you to you guys for all the effort you put in and Mars Pet Care for all the effort that has been put in behind this, to, to make it work. It's, it's phenomenal, and as you say, Rebecca, the everybody is about their phones and their phones are permanently in their hands and their faces, so what better place to have this than right there. So that's, that's amazing.
We do have quite a lot of questions. The first one that I'm going to jump in with, which is not gonna be a surprise to anybody that attends webinars, what about cats? Absolutely, if you want to stop that, yeah.
I have gotten quite a few questions about cats, so I, I can say that, we, like I said, we have a portfolio of tools, and, we're gonna continue investing in this space, and yeah, cats is definitely on the roadmap. So hopefully we'll be doing a webinar in the not too distant future about cats as well. Excellent, excellent.
Yes, we've always got our cat fanatics on the, on the webinar who want to know how their, their precious children fit into this. So we look forward to. To it being expanded to cats, that's fantastic.
One of the other questions that's come through is, how many times a year do you recommend that pet parents do two scans? Shall I take this one? Happy to.
I think, as we, as we know with, the progression of periodontal disease, it can be quite quick. But once you get to a point where there's tartar and gingivitis, that then isn't going to be reversed with all care at home. So it's really about the when the pet parent takes the initial image is understanding where the, the dog is in that progression of the disease.
But once they've had that and they understand, you know, how many teeth are affected by tartar or gingivitis, it's really we'd encourage them to go to the vet, and we can use the tool then as a monitoring tool, where they could take the picture every month, for instance, or on a regular basis to see if their progression is worsening, or to see if their oral care routine for home is making any difference. So we don't, we don't typically recommend to take a photo, on a set time period because I think it's a case by case basis, but it can have multiple purposes in a, a sense, you know, a reality check in that moment of how bad the oral health is or how good. You could look at it through your own home care treatment or veterinary treatment, to see if then you are controlling the disease or monitoring then if it's getting any worse and at what point you'd need veterinary intervention.
I think that's a brilliant approach is to use it to monitor home care. Because we all know, you know, we've stood in the consult room and we've lectured people on how to look after their pet's teeth and how to brush and everything else, and they swear blind, they're doing it, and you lift that lip and you think, no. You know, so, having a quantitative, app that can can sort of show them that, no, actually, this is not working, we need to change it and that, I think that's absolutely brilliant.
I really do. Yeah. And, and within the tool there's no limits, you know, pet parents could take a picture every single day if they wanted to, you know, there's no limit on how many scans they could do and they could take the image of one side of the mouth for one pic, you know, one analysis and the next side of the mouth for another.
So it's up to the pet parents really how often they want to monitor. Yeah, yeah, it's it it's a tool in their hands for use. And again, combining it with the vet, giving them guidance on saying, look, you know, try this at home and then resubmit the pictures and that and see what improvements there are.
If it's not working, come back again, that sort of thing. That can be really good. Kate, you mentioned about, I think it was you though, about, drilling down into the data and that sort of thing.
Are you, looking at, other questions like what breed, the, the owner has and what diet they have? Because this is obviously something which is always a hot topic and it's been around for years and years and years. You know, oh, you feed Brand X and it doesn't make a difference, or it does make a difference.
Are you collating and collecting that data? So in the current product experience we don't ask any questions like that about breed or diet. I'll say that our primary goal for this product, and I would consider the first version, was how do we build something that is fast and scientifically credible.
Those were really the two goals. We, like I said, we kind of have architected all of these products as software development kits, so it's not an app. You don't have to download an app.
You don't have to sign up. And create an account. It can, it lives on the Pedigree website and if you want to request one of these posters for your clinic, the QR code will take someone straight to the product experience.
And we really pride ourselves that on average, it only takes about 7 seconds to get your result, like kind of speed and ease of use was our. Goal and then of course to make sure that we partnered really closely with Rebecca and we were articulating what this information meant in a user-friendly and scientifically credible way. I think for future iterations, yes, absolutely breed can have a huge impact on the progression of this type of signalment.
So it's something that we might look into for kind of V2 of almost a multifactorial approach of taking into account both population-based factors and the visual signalment for an even more detailed score. But first and foremost was let's kind of get proof of concept with something that is fast and credible. Yeah, and, and the analysis that's happening, I mean, if somebody submits a, a picture, And it's blurry and that, will they get asked to resubmit it?
Yeah, exactly. So we, the way that the kind of, as I was showing the ensemble of models, first we confirm, is this a dog's mouth, and do we want to accept this photo? So is it, is it a safe photo for Mars to accept?
And then yes, it does, if it's blurry, you'll get an error message that says like, please resubmit, yeah. And the analysis that's happening, is this an AI analysis backed up by a human, or is it purely algorithms that are, are running this? Yeah, it's all computer vision algorithms.
So I know there's a lot of talk about AI today, and you know we're all constantly hearing about Chachi BT and Claude and you know, Gemini. Those are all large language models that use basically analysis of primarily text. What we've created is a computer vision model, so it's a very meticulously trained model that is only trained on photographs, photographs of dogs' teeth, and every single photograph that we used to train it was labelled by a vet.
So a vet basically labelled about 8000 images of dogs' teeth, and each image has on average anywhere from like 6 to 12 teeth in it. So we're talking, you know, maybe 80,000 individual teeth that were all labelled as to having either the presence or absence of tartar or in the case of gum irritation, the presence or absence of gum irritation on the associated gingiva. And then we basically train a computer vision model to replicate that visual understanding of that subject matter.
Expert. That's really kind of what's happening in the background is that an algorithm has now learned basically. By all of this labelled data from a vet, what kind of signalment to look for, and, at this point, the algorithm is 97% accurate on an on an image level in terms of its detection.
That's phenomenal, but as you said, it's, it's not there to replace the vet, it's there to support the vet. And I think that's, that's incredible that the vets have given the input that the algorithm learned from. And then it's driving back to the vet again, which is, which is brilliant.
We've had quite a few questions about what you were just explaining there, Kate, about the, the timelines and, and, you know, first identified is a dog, etc. Etc. So, folks, I'm not gonna go through all of those questions because they have been answered.
As I said to you in the beginning, we are recording this webinar. The recording will be up on the website. By tomorrow or the next day at the latest.
I don't wanna put our IT guys under too much pressure. And then you can go back and you can re-watch it, and you can freeze it, and you can read each slide and everything else, to explain to you what the learning was that Kate has just been, been touching on, at the moment. Yeah, and as I, as I mentioned, like, another great resource is the actual article that we published on, on Mars.com.
So you can directly access this article from the home screen of the tool to read more about the science behind it. So kind of all the images that were used and the type of neural network that we use, which is, like very much optimised for computer vision with smartphone photos. Yeah, excellent.
Talking of smartphones and that, any, any, differences, sorry, I've lost the question, but it was asking, is there a problem or a difference between Apple and iPhones and iOS and no, it works for, Android and iOS, yeah. And as I mentioned, we've launched it in 17 different countries, so we know that it's pretty resilient when it comes to including countries like India and China, Australia, so we know that it's pretty resilient when it comes to different browsers and different phone types. And you said it's not actually an app that gets downloaded.
It's just you, it's based or held on the, the Pedigree website, right? Yeah, exactly, yeah. So it just will open up in basically a browser on your smartphone.
And then you have an option to either take a new photo or use an existing photo from your image library. Excellent. You mentioned how many countries you're in, Kate.
There have been a couple of questions that have come through, and I've seen two from our Canadian friends asking, what about us? When are you coming to Canada? It, it is.
It's in. Yeah. There you go, Canada.
We never forgot you. Mars didn't forget you. It's under greenies, so that's fantastic.
I think the big thing to remember is that you know, because Mars Pet Care is a global brand, it does, function under different umbrellas and that sort of thing. So, I, I think if you've got any questions on that, just get hold of your, your local Mars, Office rep person, and they will be able to guide you, obviously, as to what, it's under in your specific country. We also had a question just now.
I've lost it again, about, in America with one of the brands, Banfield, I think. I think that's very much an individual brand thing. So Banfield talked to Mars, Mars talked to Banfield, rather than on the webinar.
Is it live in the US? Yes, it is live in the US with greenies as well. OK, so there you go.
Also, Canada and US, we can't put you together, but you're both under greenies, so forgive me. I know that's often a sore point, so, sorry about that. I think within the Greenies launch as well, we have an extra step to support pet parents, so there's an option to go to a vets tech team, which are veterinary nurses that can then answer direct questions, in the moment rather than having to go or wait to go to your vet.
So again, it's just more tailored and specific advice. OK, that's, that's great. Yeah.
There's another question here. Oh, that's the one about Banfield, so that's fine. We've gone through.
Canada is live, yes, America is live, yes. Are there any, integrations with software problems? I think we've covered that as well, that you're not actually downloading an app onto an Apple or an anything else, so it's sitting on the website.
Yeah, exactly. So you can, you can save the results to your smartphone, as a, as a user. You'll see that as one of your options with Pedigree in the UK if you're trying it, you know, we do have the ability to say push this into like a practise management system.
So you could imagine us one day kind of exploring those types of opportunities, but I think what's what's really important for us right now is to show that. We can use emerging technologies like computer vision in these really creative, credible, like, you know, scientific settings, and then kind of we're really excited to just be sharing this with the vet community, getting feedback and learning where we can take it from here. I really just, I see this as really V1.
So these are all great ideas. So please keep sharing them. Yeah, absolutely.
Henrietta made a great comment. She made me smile. She said, for those, patients that, like to use the fish.
Sharp ends in the practise. It's great if the pet owner could do the, the tooth scan at home and then just bring the results in to save our fingers. That's right.
I think I haven't missed any of the questions that have come through. I think we've covered them all. Guys, this is so exciting.
It really is. It's just, I, I have to congratulate all of you on, on this initiative and, you know, what you've each individually brought in to this model and developed it and everything else. It's, it's a tool that I think is, is more, more than just basic education.
It's, it's power in in somebody's hand, as Rebecca was saying, and that's incredible. So a big thank you to all three of you ladies for attending and sharing this with us this evening. Big thank you to Mars Pet Care for sponsoring it, and for allowing you guys to develop such an amazing tool.
To everybody that's attended this evening, thank you so much for your time. I hope you are as blown away by this tool as what I am, and, don't forget the recording will be up on the webinar vet website within the next 24 hours or so. And, you'll be able to go back and look at those, lines that Kate was talking about, about how it's all analysed.
So guys, thank you for your time tonight and, thank you to everybody that attended to, Beck, my controller in the background for making everything run smoothly as always. I do appreciate it. From myself, Bruce Stevenson, it's good night.
Thank you everyone. Thanks. Thank you.
Bye bye bye.
