Good evening everyone. Thank you for taking the time, to join me on the webinar. What we're looking to cover this evening is, some CV writing and interview tips.

So first of all, writing a CV can be a stressful task, especially if you're starting from scratch. And although there's no, one size fits all solution for the perfect CV, it should always be clearly formatted and strong enough for a recruiter to scan quickly and most importantly, tailored to the role that you're applying for. If you're not sure where to start, here are some basic rules for how to write a CV.

So first of all, what information, should I include on my CV? CVs should never really be completely, formulaic, but there are a few things, that they should always contain. Now, first of all, Personal details.

It may sound obvious, but you'd be surprised how many people forget to include their name, email address, contact number, and even their address. So to avoid any awkward moments, make sure that these are clearly presented at the top of your CV. A curriculum vita is an unnecessary title, but your name, it's obviously not.

Personal statements, because it's the first thing that's shown on your CV. A personal statement is an essential part of standing out from the crowd. It explains who you are, what you're offering, and what you're looking for.

Aim to prove why you're suitable in one short and sharp paragraph. Next up, work experience. This section should include all of your relevant work experience listed with the most recent first at the top.

Include your job title, name of the organisation, the time in the post, and your key responsibilities. And next up, I'll be listing achievements, and this is your chance to show how your previous experience has given you the skills needed to make you a suitable candidate. List all of your relevant skills and achievements, back them up with examples, and make it clear how you would apply these to your new role.

And next, education, your educational experience and achievement should be listed here along with the dates, the type of qualification, and all the grade that you've achieved. All those specific parts of education to include in your CV will depend on your individual situation. For example, if you had more educational achievements and work experience, placing an emphasis on this section would be a good idea.

Now finally, hobbies and interests. You don't always need to include this on your CV, but mentioning relevant ones which could back up your skills and help you stand out from the crowd would be useful. Not to mention it would give you something to talk about an interview.

Just don't say you enjoy socialising with friends for the sake of including something. If it's not going to add value, just leave it out. Any extra information such as reasons for a career change or maybe reasons for a gap in career history should also be included if required.

Now, keywords, what sort of words should I be including in my CV? Figuring out what keywords to use on your CV can be tough, especially when you're trying to fit a lot of skills and experience into a short document. Appropriate keywords that we've gone for, which would be useful to include on your CV are accurate, adaptable, confident, hardworking, innovative, proactive, reliable, responsible.

In addition to using the right words, you should also back up your attributes with genuine accomplishments. Not only will you stand out from the others with identical skills, you'll also be able to prove your suitability more effectively. After all, anyone can say they're worth, they're hardworking, but not everyone can prove it.

Now, moving on to how to present a CV. Your CV essentially is the first thing an employer will see when hiring for a vacancy, and how it looks at first glance will be the reason they decide to read it in more detail. Even if your skills match the role perfectly, a messy and confusing CV probably won't get a second look.

Now to ensure you're painting yourself and your skills in the best light, you should always do the following. Keep it short and sharp. Two sides of A4 will almost suffice, but this depends on your experience and skill set as you don't want to leave out important details.

Choose a clear and professional font to ensure that your CV can be easily read, leave the comic sounds and word are back in the 90s where it belongs. Lay it out in logical order with sufficient spacing and clear headings, for example, work experience. Next line, education.

And order your experience and education in reverse chronological order to highlight your most recent experience and achievements are there at the top. Finally, check your grammar and spell it spelling thoroughly. Once you put your CV together, don't just assume it's finished.

Every job is different, and tailoring your CV accordingly is vital to standing out. Edit in line with the job description whenever you make an application. You'll always be able to ensure it matches the specifications every time.

Excuse me. Highlight that you're right, you're the right match for the job by outlining the specific skills you have to offer the employer, relevant accomplishments and achievements, the work and experience, the work and educational experience, sorry, that you've had in their field, also had personal qualities that will make you right for the role, and a clear understanding of the job requirements. At JHP, we do offer free writing and CD review service.

So if you're unsure, or if you would like a second opinion just for us out the glad, please feel free to give us a contact. We'll be gladly to assist. Moving on from CDs, I think it's quite important for us tonight to touch on social media.

So please remember that today is not just about a paper CV. Potentially employers have the opportunity to gain a richer, deeper, three dimensional view of candidates through social media. And you had the chance really to stand up for that perfect job if you apply a little bit of social media magic.

You need to market yourself across multiple social media platforms to attract the attention of the very best potential employers in the industry and to secure that dream veterinary career opportunity. And the best place to start is by creating a sorry, a professional social media profile to boost your chances of securing that ideal job. I can assure you that the majority of employers will Google your name or search for you on social media sites before deciding to interview.

We've had people turned down for interviews solely because of what clients have found online or seen on social media. Now let's look at how you can leverage social media in your search for your perfect job. So first up, time for the social, sorry, it's time for the digital spring clean.

Step one, Google yourself, see what comes up, not just on the first page of the search results, but go 23 pages deep. For most of us, findings are pretty lean and normal, but occasionally things turn up that you may not be too proud of. No matter how justifiable at the time, that Twitter rant or that daring costume party pic is likely to tarnish your prospects.

Switch your social media profiles to maximum privacy, and if there is anything untoward, asking nicely for it to be taken down is always a great first step, and unsurprisingly quite successful. Now, I'm sure you're aware by far there's two key social media platforms for career development and professional visibility are LinkedIn and Facebook. Each one for quite different reasons, but these are the optimum combination, and regardless of your current work situation, you should always try and keep these as professional as possible as you never know when someone with a great opportunity may be browsing your profile.

And social media is fast becoming the primary place to network with employers, recruiters and your veterinary professional peers while showcasing your talents in relation to new jobs or career growth opportunities in the veterinary industry. It's time to harness the power of social media to boost your veterinary employment prospects. Start today.

And moving on from the social media sort of spring cleaning. We're going to go on to interview tips. So you've done your CV you've submitted it, and the employers, they're interested.

They would like to have you in for an interview. This is great, but have you got all the details about the practise, and can you see yourself working there? If you're using an agency, use them to the full potential, ask them to obtain all the information that you need about the clinic, the team, and the role in which you've applied for.

If you've applied directly, do you know someone that works in the clinic that is able to answer some questions that you may have before attending the interview? Sometimes this isn't possible, and all you'll get is an email exchange or a telephone call asking you to come in for the interview. From that telephone call, if you're 100% sure you wouldn't take the job if it was offered, don't go to the interview, it would just waste everybody's time.

Although I'm a big, big advocate of gaining as much interview experience as possible, sometimes you just know it's not going to be right. I turned down one interview following a telephone call based on the fact that it was going to be a logistical nightmare to get there. Now whilst we're on that, I think it'd be quite important just to touch base on the commute.

How far, how far away is your interview? Some practises may offer to cover your travel costs, but please bear in mind that others won't. At the end of the day, you look at it as an investment in your future.

It'll be worth the travelling if it means you get the right job. So if you can, I'll go into as many interviews as you're invited to, even if you're not 100%, it's the right kind of practise. You won't know for definite until you go, then if it's an absolute write-off from the minute you walk in, look at it as an interview practise.

If you ever bought a house, and when you see the pictures online, it may look fantastic, but when you view it, you realise that the photos were taken at very good angles or look at it in the opposite way. The photos may not have been great, but the house was perfect when you viewed it. You won't be able to pick out a good practise or a good interview if you don't have some experience visiting the bad ones.

And when going to interviews myself, I would always sit in the waiting room, watch the receptionist or any other staff members that are around, you'll soon pick up the vibes of the practise and how it feels. The more interviews you have, the more you'll realise every practise is different, and it'll be a good learning experience to know what to ask for in future interviews. Preparation It may be a been a while since you last applied for the role, so she kept hold of it, reread the advert.

If you have a lot of interviews, or sent off a lot of applications, it can be a very easy to get confused between them all. So make sure you know what was advertised before you go. Also take a look at the company's website and go on the social media pages, you'll probably have done this anyway, but when deciding to apply for the job, make sure you refresh yourself the night before.

Also explore your network. You may not have realised it yet, but the vet world is very small. Everyone knows everyone and you'll be surprised at how many connections you have.

If you have an interview at a practise, ask your lecturers or university clinicians if they heard of it. And ask vets you've under who you've undertaken EMS with if they know of any practises to particularly avoid. Also see if you have any friends that have liked the practise social media page or if you have any mutual friends within in staff practise.

If you're using an agency, why not ask them if they've had any locums working there, or if they placed any other permanent staff at the clinic? If so, how did it go? So next up, interview tips.

First of all, practicalities. Now it sounds very obvious, but please don't be late. Find out how long it's gonna take to get there, but remember not to rely on what an online map tells you at 11 o'clock at night.

Be aware of rush hour traffic and allow plenty of time. If you're going to be late for any reason, telephone the practise. If you have time the day before and you aren't travelling too far, why not trial run 24 hours earlier.

This also gives you a chance to scope out the local area for shops, cafes, etc. Which you may use if you're successful and decide to take the job. Before you attend the interview, find out what the interview will entail.

Will you be there to see the clinic owner and practise manager and will only be there for one hour? Or will you also be having a tour of the clinic and meeting other members of the team? Or is it likely you're gonna be a short trial whereby you'll be assisting in theatre maybe?

Prepare yourself for questions that you might be asked as well as questions that you would like to ask about the role or practise. Now, some of the questions that you should be expected to ask are, where do you see yourself in 5 years? What do you think are the most important things that clients look for in a bet?

What attracts you to our clinic, so they may ask, do you live close by? If not, do you think the commute is achievable long term? Something else they may ask you on a personal level, what do you enjoy doing when away from work?

Some questions that you may wish to ask. If I need support of a senior vet, will they be available? Will there be a 2nd interview or a trial day before you make a decision?

Which computer system do you use and would there be training given on this? Don't be afraid to ask, can I ask how long you've worked there? What do you enjoy about the practise of the team?

Honestly, it's nothing to be scared about to ask, about the team, as you'll be spending a large amount of time with them during the week, so you want to be able to make sure you get along with them. Now, another interview tips is sort of first impressions. Make sure you look smart and presentable.

A good rule of thumb is to wear what you would, what you would expect to wear in the role. You don't want to overload it with the suits, don't overdo it by any means, but smart trousers and the shirt are usually a good go to option. Think about whether you need to take any waterproofs or sturdy boots.

Are you going for a sit-down interview or will you be spending some time with the other vets? Will you go out to do some visits from farmer equine clients? The clinic has said that you may be also conducting a short trial, you may wish to take a set of scrubs with you.

Excuse me, now a time to shine on the interview day. Remember to relax. Remember that the interview is a two-way thing and as well as showcasing yourself and your skills, the clinic will also be trying to impress you.

You've impressed them so far with your CV, so you know that they're keen on speaking with you. Now the veterinary industry is a very real employment crisis at the minute, and you as the job hunter have the upper hand here. Now this can be both good and bad as well.

It means less pressure to fight the vacancies. It also means you'll have a lot of choice and need to be able to philtre the genuine practises from the ones who will say they will do anything to get you to join them. This is why it's so vitally important for you to interview the practise as much as they are interviewing you.

So now, well done, you've received the offer. A lot of people get embarrassed, I don't like talking about money, but this is essentially why we all go to work, we're totally honest. Be prepared to ask questions about the salary and the package on offer.

The best thing to do is to get your salary expectations in the clinic before you even set up the interview. By doing this, you, you know that the clinic is aware of what you're seeking and that more importantly, they want to meet with you so you fit within their salary bracket that they're looking to pay. If you're using an agency, discuss your salary expectations with them before setting up the interview, and they will submit this to the clinic on your behalf.

Now of course, salary is very important. So I don't know what's happened here. Readjust that one.

Sorry about that. So of course the salary is very important, but also think about the full package and what this may be worth to you. Once you've received your full offer, discuss this with your partner, family, or recruitment consultant, consultant, sorry, and wear all of the benefits.

If you've been lucky enough to receive more than one offer, then don't rush it. Don't rush it and accept the highest offer if you want to consider a number of things such as the commute times. Is it worth taking a slightly lower offer for a clinic that is 15 minutes closer to home?

Essentially this is going to be saving you 30 minutes commuting per day, or another way to look at it, 10 hours per month, if working 5 days a week. That is time spent with family or friends and will also save you on fuel, wear and tear on your vehicle. Is the lower offer also offering to pay for your membership fees so it doesn't come out of your own personal expenses?

The other components of the package to consider are the out of hours rota, including time off in loo of work weekends are on call, days work, your bonus scheme, accommodation and or allowance, vehicle and or allowance, and if you're gonna take the vehicle, what are the tax implications? Do you get a work mobile phone? Do you get the uniform paid for and provided?

What membership fees are being paid for by the practise? What CPD you're being given, not only the allowance, in terms of, value, but how many days CPD are you being given. Holidays, any specific requirements such as no holidays during calving season or only 4 weeks can be taken as holiday.

Bank holidays always something good to clarify, childcare vouchers and even private healthcare. This is the final slide of my presentation. We wish you all the very best with your search for work.

We will be more than happy to help you in any way that we can. I understand this can be quite a daunting time, so if you have any questions, please feel free to contact me. Thank you very much, Josh.

A very thorough and detailed presentation. Excellent. We do have a few questions coming in.

So everyone in the community, everyone who's, viewing now, if you have any questions that you've thought of, please do feel free to submit them into the Q&A box or the chat box and we try to get through them. Jose is saying thank you for this presentation, and that's the feedback there. A couple of good questions already come in then, Josh.

So, Maria's asking what is understood to be an achievement. You mentioned on I think the one of the first slides about. Adding achievements to your CV.

So what kind of things can you put in there? Is that personal achievements, work achievements, a bit of both, perhaps? I think personally it would go down as a bit of both, sort of anything really in terms of maybe it's sort of voluntary work or charity work that you may have done in the past, or maybe sort of hobbies, achievements that you've achieved, maybe you've exceeded well within, say, for example, If you played for your local polo team, if you were to exceed rather than playing locally but nationally, it's nice to put something like that on there, or if you're, a keen runner, for example, and you're doing, half marathons or marathons or ultra marathons, anything like that.

So, anything that's gonna show off, your character, I think it is anything that you've achieved either career or personal life-wise is good to put on there. Perfect. And, as someone who has run a marathon, I can confirm it is a very good achievement.

You wouldn't catch me doing one, to be honest. Ran some of it. Let's, let's, leave it there.

Excellent, thanks for that, very, very interesting question here from Grace. Excellent question. How can you tell the difference between a practise that's really keen to get you, you on board, so you specifically, versus a practise that's desperate for anyone to join as their team are leaving?

For me, I think, in my honest opinion, to try and tell the difference, I would be keen, if they're interested enough and you're a position and you've been in for sort of a look around in an interview, it is going for half a trial day or a couple of trial days, so you're not just hearing the feedback, from, the clinical director, the practise manager, you're not just getting, kind of maybe what you want to hear from. The people that run it, but if you, you're having a trial and you're working with people that will be essentially your co-workers, you can then work alongside them and ask them questions and you can pick up the vibes from them. Yeah, OK, thank you.

Could you ask, in the interview what the turnover is like? I don't see why not. Not at all.

Yeah, I think it's, yeah, it's quite an important question to ask. I think, as I said earlier, in the presentation, I think it's, it's very much not only are they interviewing you, but you're interviewing them and you deserve to know as much as possible about the practise because it's, it's, obviously, it's, this is your career. It's a commitment, not just from the practise, but from yourself as well.

Yeah, yeah, absolutely, I think that was, that was a really great piece of information that you said there, and it's something that I think some people, yeah, some of us are guilty of forgetting perhaps that it is a two-way, situation. So, you know, as you said, people have seen your CV, they want to interview you, and there are a lot of veteran shops out there, so they, they do have to sell you on petition as well. Perfect.

Another question here from Grace, what's the general reception when asking about mental well-being support in a practise? I find it's a very important component in high performing jobs. I think it's, very much a hot topic in the industry and a very important topic at the moment.

Yeah, definitely. I think, sort of mental health at the minute is, being monitored very carefully within the veterinary industry. MetLife, fantastic charity, they're doing a lot of work to help, but I think, it's very important, to ask the practise what what they're willing to do to support any sort of mental health, well-being issues, .

I think these days a lot of practises are willing to provide that support as well. Mm. Yeah, yeah, I think so.

I think it's something that which, which thankfully is finally, being looked at a lot more detail and has been recognised a lot more. It is quite a, you know, stressful profession at times, as I'm sure many are, but, you know, it's something that's definitely worth asking about, isn't it? Yeah.

Excellent. A very good question here actually, Carla said, had a few interviews now, not yet been successful. You tend to get quite nervous and think perhaps I talk too much or being too casual because of the nerves.

Do you have any tips for overcoming this? Yeah, very good question, Carla. I think, I mean, sorry that he's not been successful so far, but I think for any future, sort of future interviews you, you're going to be arranging, maybe sit down with a friend or family member, and do a couple sort of mock interviews.

Excuse me. So say for example, you're lining up, your next interview, do some research, About the practise, and maybe rehearse being in the interview with your friend or colleague, sorry, friend or family member, and rehearse and go through some questions. Don't just go through it once or twice, go through it 345 times until you're comfortable, .

If you like, any day you can give us a call, and if you'd like us to go through sort of a few mock interviews with you, we're more than happy to do so to make you feel more comfortable and confident. Yeah, excellent, excellent. So that's, that's really helpful.

And I think sometimes it's probably worth, just mentioning that interviews are a very stressful situation sometimes and, and hopefully people on the other side table understand this and won't necessarily change you entirely on that. But as, as Josh says, preparations, everything, and I actually one of my questions I was thinking of is that there are what are the standard questions that will generally come up in most interviews that perhaps you could. Have a prepared answer beforehand so you know exactly what you're going to say during the interview.

Well, I think it's, you'll be changing your questions, to each interview, to be honest. But I mean, sort of more in-depth questions maybe about sort of hours, maybe overtime, things that may impact you on a week to week basis, just to get clarification on certain things, lunch breaks, holiday, all those sort of things really, like you said before. I don't think there's any, any harm in asking sort of about staff turnover.

For example, if you're replacing a staff member, I don't think, you have to be shy in terms of asking why did the person you're replacing, why did they leave. I think these days people tend to be quite honest, whether it's they're moving on to, to, to relocate, maybe maternity leave, etc. I think they're willing to be quite honest.

Mm. Excellent. Thank you for that.

Good question here from Annelise, so how far back would you go with education and, I guess work experience on the CV? I think it depends if you're a new graduate, what we quite often see on CVs, which I think is a good idea, is that it will include the university, and college education, . But I think you don't want to be going back any more than sort of 1015 years if it's not really going to be that relevant.

Like I myself, I probably wouldn't be including my secondary school education on there now, being nearly 30. But, again, it's all down to you and what you can, it depends on how much you've got on your CV already, because I previously touched base on you don't really want it being more than 2 pages, like document wise. Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

Lots of very positive comments coming through. Good tips. Thanks.

Thank you, Josh, really helpful, very useful presentations, lots and lots of good feedback coming through, which is good to see. Perfect. A couple of very interesting questions actually.

This is a very, this is a great question, from Ray Lynn. During the interview, how would, how would I know, if the interview is showing, perhaps they are interested in hiring me? It's a difficult one.

It's a good question. I did notice that one just a minute ago, because, it reminded me of a situation last week where I had somebody go in for an interview, and I initially spoke to her, first of all, the nurse, just to get her feedback and her thoughts. She absolutely loved it.

The job was perfect. She felt the interview went well. However, the person who interviewed her, she felt that they were quite, reserved and weren't giving a lot away, so she wasn't quite sure she was going to get good feedback.

Now I spoke to, I spoke to the practise 30 minutes, an hour later, max, and the way he was on the phone to me, he was absolutely over the moon. So he had a very good poker face, and it was nice because he went on to offer the position and she accepted. I think at times they may not give away too much, but I think as somebody interviewing for the role, you're well within your right to also ask, have they had many other applications, .

Have they got many more interviews? When do they look to be making the decision, just so you're kept in the loop as well, just so you're not totally in the dark, but I think in terms of looking for hints, it's all depending on the interviewer really on, on how they are and whether they've got a good poker face or not, I guess, but I'd like to think more often than not, they'll be very honest and open with you at the end of the interview. Yeah, absolutely, and it, advice that I've had in the past and certainly in in lots of .

Sales roles that I've recruited for way back when, question always is good to ask, is there any reason why you wouldn't hire me or is there anything that you're unsure of about my experience or my CV? Is that fair to ask? Yeah, exactly, it's just in case there's something that you're missing, and I guess it, does it kind of fall under the constructive criticism brackets, so you know where to improve for the future.

Yeah, definitely. Yeah, feedback's all important, isn't it? It's definitely.

So another question here, so what, what would be the advantages of using an agency as a job seeker? Myself, personally, I feel, that we take all the stress out of it to a degree. We won't be able to obviously attend the interview itself.

But essentially, you, as a person, if you give us everything that we're looking for, we then take the information and we'd be exhausting all avenues to find you the perfect role. Once we set up the interviews, we, we'd essentially organise and schedule everything. If you just give us, obviously, availability, we'd slot things in and keep everything all up to date, and, I guess one of the important things, like I say, it, it doesn't always come down to money.

The, the role and, and the place is very important, but, salary is obviously it's why we will go to work and, as a recruitment agency, it's our job to negotiate, the right salary for you and what it is exactly what you'd be looking for. Yeah, absolutely, you're, you're there to help at the end of the day. Yeah.

Perfect, I think that's, most of the questions. I have a question here asking, to see one of the slides again. This will be on the website, within the next few days, Marina.

So anything you want to see or anyone else, at all as well, the, the, webinar will be up on the site. You can go through all the slides again. Do you want me to go on slide 2 now, or yeah, you can do this we just show that quickly now then.

Right. Well, just whilst you're doing that, I had a question, what would you suggest for a follow up? Would you suggest, calling into the practise or going to be the recruiter?

Yeah, so essentially, if you're working with a recruiter, . Either straight after the interview or, or when you've had time to obviously drive and get home, I'd be calling the recruiters just to let them know the feedback and your thoughts, and then it'd be then our job to obviously go to the practise and see what their thoughts were initially, I think. It's worth leaving an hour or two sort of gap just to, because obviously, once you've then gone out of that interview, quite often, a couple of the clinical directors, practise manager will sit down and discuss how the interview went, so they're not going to be available sort of immediately to get that immediate impact or sort of immediate feedback, but sort of leaving it just a few hours, I think would be a good idea.

Yeah, is it worth writing just a short letter and sending that sort of through you guys just to say, you know, thanks for the chance to meet with you and thanks for showing me around or anything like that. Yeah, definitely, yeah, it's always good to provide that feedback, even if, even if you're not successful, whether they don't offer you the position, or whether you decide not to accept, you never know what the future holds and what kind of opportunities, they may have, which will be suitable in the future. Yeah, absolutely.

One piece of advice from me having interviewed people is, make sure you're early, but make sure you're not too early because you can turn up 30 to 40 minutes before your scheduled interview. Sometimes it can be a bit of a hassle for the people that are interviewing you. Well, yeah, you're, you're the people that are interviewing, they're not prepared, are they?

It's it's, it's, it's a bit unfair. I imagine the interviewer, turning up to you 40 minutes before you're expecting to be interviewed. Quick catching you off guard.

I have had that previously where I said, I think it was 9:30 so I could get some stuff done in the morning and then I turned up at 5:59. So and we only had a small office, so there was. I pretty much know where for us to go but to start the interview, so.

I'd say about 10 minutes before the interview's due to start. Yeah, yeah, definitely. Perfect.

Any, any closing comments then? I think that's the end of the question, then. No, that's it, it's just for anybody that's.

There, there's no obligation. Obviously you get in touch. It's completely private and confidential, even if, there's a role in particular that you see that you want to apply for directly yourself and you don't want an agency to represent you, just get in touch if you want any help or advice on your CV or any interview tips or anything, or even if like, excuse me, even if you want to do a mock interview.

We're happy to run through and, and give you some questions and, and vice versa, happy to question us so you can go through it a few times. For those people that are a little bit more nervous, it, it's always good to go through a couple of times, but for the people out there that are nervous, just remember that it is a two-way process. It's not just them interviewing you, it's you interviewing them, and a lot of feedback that we get, not just from trials but from interviews as well, is that, People on paper and their capabilities are fantastic, but they've come across too shy and haven't spoken enough, so it's sort of, it's made the practise worry or wonder whether they'll be a good fit for the team.

So, just be yourself and, and relax. Excellent. Thank you.

Some very, very good, advice there and a great presentation, Josh. I won't keep you any longer as I know you have a bad throat and I've made you talk for for long enough as you coughing down the microphone. Yeah, that's great.

Thank you so much to JHP recruitment for sponsoring tonight's webinar and for that great content. As Josh mentioned, if you head to their site or if you get in touch with, anyone from the team, they'll be happy to help you. The webinar will be live in a few days, time, or sorry, we'll be, up on the website in a few days' time.

So if you've missed anything, please feel free to head there. That's it for us. So thanks again, Josh.

Brilliant. Thanks, Paul.